Riches to Rags – The Ron Davis – Joe Zada Saga

If you haven’t read the story behind the soon to be “Riches to Rags” then you need to go to and do that first.  Then come back and take the time to voice you comments.  We want to know what you know but keep it honest, keep the language civil and reveal only the truth from what you know.   We also welcome your thoughts on the subject.

We are happy to hear from both sides to give both sides their chance to be heard.  Now is your chance so write us a comment.



  1. Diana De Rosa said,

    June 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    The article is now available on If anyone has additional information they care to share please take a moment to do so.

  2. Knoots said,

    June 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    This article is anything but a paid advertisement. I know Mr. Zada personally for 8 years. I also have LENT Mr. Zada money and also received a promissory note for the amount owed to me. I will agree, it is an unfortunate situation that has caused the delays in being paid back my money. It has also unfortunately caused me some hardship. But NEVER has Mr. Zada ever represented that the money he BORROWED from me as an investment of any type. Furthermore, I have never heard from any other person (I know several) who has LENT Mr. Zada money refer to the LOAN as an investment. Whatever the circumstances are that have caused the delays in paying back Mr. Dover, Mr. Davis and myself are unfortunate but there is no INVESTMENT scam here. Only an unfortunate situation that I am assured Mr. Zada intends to fully rectify.

    I would like to point out what is SO OBVIOUS to anyone who has ever been in business for any period of time and has made investments in the past; where is your investment documents Mr. Davis? Where are your stocks, shares, bonds, or anything that represents an ongoing business investment? What business person asks for a PROMISORY note as an afterthought for an investment? PROMISORY NOTES are for LOANS and INDEBTNESES not for INVESTMENTS Mr. Davis.

    At the time in question of requesting a note why were portfolio performance repots not requested? Why were proof of investments not requested? Mr. Davis, for someone whom has been in business for so long and has been what appears to be successful, I would hope that you would have at least thought of these things or at least had your accountants, investment advisors, attorney’s review the investment documents. Maybe the reason you never asked these people and the reason why you never requested anything that would be associated to an investment is because YOU NEVER INVESTED INTO ANYTHING. It sure sounds like you lent a friend money to help him through a hard time and unfortunately he has not paid you back yet. Isn’t that what is really happening here Mr. Davis? Your friend borrowed some money and has not paid you back yet.

    That is all that has happened here Mr. Davis. You like yourself lent a VERY GOOD FRIEND money and he unfortunately has not been able to pay you nor MYSELF back yet. Not some BIG INVESTMENT SCAM that for whatever reason want people to believe.

    Truth is, this situation sucks. I wish he could pay me back but he hasn’t. But one thing I know for sure (and it is the same reason YOU, MYSELF and others lent Mr. Zada money when he asked) is that he is a man of his word and he WILL PAY YOU and ME back. Furthermore knowing the person Mr. Zada is, I am certain he will do all he can to provide compensation for any hardships YOU or I may have endured.

    • Dan said,

      July 16, 2010 at 3:56 am

      Thu, July 15, 2010 8:51:00 PMJoe Zada
      From: Dan Foley View Contact



      I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to respond to some of the information that is being cited on Joe Zada. I am a long time friend of the family and I have known Joe since I was in my teens. I am now 46. He is a christian man and Is always willing to help someone in need and is very generous. I Lived with Joe for a few months in Florida back in 2001. He is definately not out to scam people whatsoever. I truly believe that he played the game and got in a little to deep and when it came time to call in the marker he couldn’t deliver. The economy has affected him as well. Just like these investors are waiting and hoping to get paid, he is doing the same as well. I admire him for his desire to pay back all others have invested in. I guarantee that he is very concerned with this matter and is problably haveing a very difficult time with it. His intentions have always been good and I have seen him give away more money to freinds and charity than anyone I have ever met. Don’t hurt the man more than he is already hurting. His entire being is in maintaining a good reputation. This negative press may be hindering him from being able to gain confidence of his investors to believe in him so that he can do what he does best. And that is to deliver. We all go through down times. He has a great heart and he means well. He always trusts the Lord that he will provide. Really if you knew him the man would give you the shirt off his back.

      I say lighten up on the guy, say some positive things about him and how he has delivered in the past and let him work his magic. God really blesses this man.


      Dan Foley

    • Brabski said,

      May 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      Get your money back yet??? Now what is your opinion of that crook???

  3. Liza said,

    June 5, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    I think that there is one irrefutable fact in all this that somehow has gotten forgotten. You loaned a man some money. He hasn’t repaid you yet. He is a man with considerable influence and connections. Yet he is still here. He hasn’t left the country. He hasn’t filed bankruptcy. He has said at every opportunity that he WILL repay you. He is trying very hard at considerable personal loss to make good on every loan. In business, things happen and go wrong. Circumstances beyond one persons control can have devastating effects. Every loan carries some risk. Yet- he hasn’t said your money is gone. He has apologized and explained to the best of his ability. You trusted this man enough to give him your money. Now trust him enough to give it back. I also happen to know that Mr. Zada has greatly influenced many peoples, Mr. Dovers and Mr Davis’ included, success through his kindness and generosity. All that seems to have been forgotten.

  4. The Truth said,

    June 8, 2009 at 1:06 pm


    You are either a paid spin doctor for Joe, or you are totally delusional. Joe luled all of us into a false sense of security with his fake wealth, gave us generous gifts, and then enticed us to “invest” in his schemes. About the time Ron Davis said he invested in this scheme, I received a principal payment from Joe that I had been asking for for months (being suspicous that this was a ponzi scheme). He paid some investors with the monies of others. If that is not the definition of a Ponzi scheme, I don’t know what is. I too received phone calls from fake European bankers and investment advisors telling me my money was on the way (as did Robert Dover and Robert Ross), but I have never received it.
    Additionally, Joe screwed the American Cancer Society by becoming a main sponser of their events TWICE and never paying them his sponsorship. What a great guy, Screwing people with cancer. I don’t know the circumstances of your “loan” to Zada, but I think I can speak for the majority of us that we made no loan to him. If we had, he would not be under investigation by a branch of the federal government as we speak. Please do not insult the rest of us by posting the ridiculous response that you have posted.

  5. Robert said,

    June 10, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    The people that know me well know that I am a very private person. I have never commented on a blog site and I have tried to avoid being in the press. I find great joy in doing things that help others, but always prefer to work behind the scenes. However, I feel that the current circumstance requires me to speak up. While I find this extremely difficult to do, I do not want an injustice to continue. I want to start by saying Joe Zada was my closest friend in the world. We spoke almost daily (sometimes a few times a day) for over a decade. We had horses together, vacationed together, and he lived in my house for several years. So I hope you can understand why the following is so difficult for me to say.
    Joe originally came to me and told me about these investments he had been doing in oil in Saudi Arabia. He said they would buy these huge oil tankers when oil was cheap(er) and then sell at the beginning of summer when oil prices went up and this is how he was making so much money. (I kept the print outs that he gave me showing me the huge gains oil had been making in the previous cycles) Just over two years ago he came to me and told me that they were projecting skyrocketing oil prices over the next few months and that I should go to my family and friends and tell them about this once in a lifetime investment opportunity. As far as I knew Joe had always been up front and honest in the past, so I believed what he was telling me. I did ask my lawyer of many years to check into the whole thing and he told me he met with all parties and this was a legitimate investment deal and that he had invested in this opportunity as well.
    So I am the one who originally told Ron Davis and other friends and family about the business opportunity that Joe had presented. (Therefore, I know for a fact, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Ron Davis is telling the truth- and that other friends and family invested as well)
    What happened next is exactly what Joe had predicted. Oil prices skyrocketed, except one problem, when we were supposed to get our money back as promised on July 1, 2007 it did not happen. Since then we have been promised money every few weeks or months and either the check did not clear, or we were told not to deposit it, or the wire did not arrive. This has happened dozens of times. Every few weeks or months we would get another excuse for the delay, usually by text message, but to this day we have not been told where our money went or what the problem is. Joe told us he had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Saudi investors and that he could not reveal to us where the money is. I do know that the story has changed more times then I care to remember.
    Just recently I started getting lots of phone calls from other people who are in the same situation, and realized the extent of people who “invested” their life savings with Joe. Most people have told me that Joe said if they said anything to anyone they would not see a penny, so most people are afraid to come out in the open about this. But that is starting to change. I know that if I did not speak up now that I have learned what has happened to so many people, and this allowed new innocent people to fall into the same trap then I could not forgive myself. One thing I can say for sure about Ron Davis is that I am proud of him for taking a stand, for trying to find out the truth, and for going public under such difficult circumstances.
    Even though I have much guilt over the whole thing, Ron and my other friends and family have never placed blame on me or let it affect our friendships and for this I am truly blessed. As for Joe Zada, I still have a faint hope that circumstances were beyond his control, and that he will still come thru, but this hope is fading fast.

    • sean detroit said,

      July 28, 2009 at 6:33 pm

      Robert, he stole from more people than anyone will know. He tried to scam a group of his old Detroit gay friends by selling us shares to his Arabian Horses he was taking to the Olympics. Some fell for it. Thank god I didn’t but that’s when I realized what an evil person he was. He ripped off some of the nicest people in Detroit.

  6. July 7, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Joe Zada and I have enjoyed a fifteen year friendship which included both business and social interactions. We share many common friends and interests. In early 2008, I over reacted to the global economic crisis in a very regrettable manner. I was unkind to my friend. I contacted Joe in the spring of 2009. He is a true gentleman, and graciously accepted my sincere apology. His reaction in this matter speaks very highly of his character. He is a kind, understanding, dignified man, wise in many ways. It requires a big person to forgive and move on. Joe Zada is that big person. I have learned from Joe to be calm, to believe, to be patient, and that a rational approach to life’s temporary problems results in the best outcome for all concerned. I look foreward to our continued friendship in future years.

    Mike Donaldson

  7. Carl Thompson said,

    July 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    The are two rules of the Ponzi scheme:

    Rule 1. Gain the trust of the victims. Start slow, and develop a long-term relationship such that even when confronted with the criminal facts that they will still defend you.

    Rule 2. Pay out just enough money to have “references”, therefore those that complain (and do not fall for Rule #1) will be seen as disgruntled investors.

    Sorry posters, but you are textbook examples of people that have been suckered. It may take a while to understand that your “loan” was a scam and your money is gone, but gone it is.

  8. CASZ said,

    July 23, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    My uncle who passed away in 2006 was scammed for around 2 million. On his death bed he mentioned that there was a swiss account with multiple millions of dollars. He left 52 neices and newphews with his investments and we initially contacted Joe and through his lawyer he said he would pay us which he never did. We decided as a group not to pursue it and we just gave up in the matter, we couldn’t agree and didn’t want to spend more good money after bad. Please let me know about when and where you are making your documentary. I’m sure I have the paper work for the money that Joe took from my uncle’s investment account at Smith Barney. I know Joe wanted to liquadate the entire account but he fortunately never got to.

    • Big Brother said,

      August 11, 2009 at 1:12 am


      If I understand your post right, you state that your uncle revealed that he had a Swiss bank account with “multiple millions of dollars.” The only reason you have a Swiss bank account is for secrecy. Swiss accounts are used to hide money from the IRS, spouses, creditors and others.
      You also state that even though you had documentation that Zada owed you 2 million dollars, you dropped it because you didn’t want to spend more good money. You wouldn’t want to spend a few thousand in attorney fees to get a judgment and then turn the documents over to investigators for possible prosecution?
      Your post poses more questions than answers.
      No disrespect but could you explain the Swiss account?

  9. The big zada said,

    July 23, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Point blank. I know nothing of the case, circumstances or people. Joe Zada is a slime ball and this is an obvious fraud case. People who commit fraud are usually nice, kind and dignified until you find out they stole all your money.

    Anyone who supports this zada is an idiot, even if he is a nice guy he is still a criminal and committed fraud. a loan can only be a loan if it is deemed a loan with loan documents, otherwise it is considered an investment. I hate stuff like this, because zada makes everyone else look bad. such a loser, what goes around comes around.

  10. Lowell said,

    July 23, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Looks like Joe Zada strikes again for 43 mil! What a loser!

  11. Lowell said,

    July 23, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Sorry, I forgot the link to what I’m referring to. Just google “Zada” and “Fedorov”.$43M

  12. KLS said,

    July 24, 2009 at 1:38 am

    Without revealing too much since the situation involves my parents and not me (I was a teenager)… About 17 years ago Joe swindled them out of about $6,000 plus court costs… Clear and simple case of lying and stealing… Back then he didn’t have anything to sue for, perhaps now he’ll get what’s due. Apparently he was just getting warmed up back then.

  13. Joey Bucknsap said,

    July 25, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    I like how this blog stops after the mention of a 43 million dollar swindle. People really have to stop giving anyone their money to handle. ANYONE.
    You would be better of just letting it sit in the bank in treasury bills than giving it to dirtbags.

  14. Sounds Fishy said,

    July 27, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Online public records show Joe Zada’s address as 26023 Regency Club La., Warren, MI. when he purchased Polo Club home for $3,500,000.Apartments there today are renting for aprox. $550 to $850. So, unless he owned the apartment complex how’d this happen??? (Please note, when checking out the apartments on, or the nearby railroad tracks)

  15. sean detroit said,

    July 28, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    I hope Ron Davis does some deeper investigation and look at how Joe ripped off money from the gay community in Detroit back in the 1980’s. When I met Joe he claimed his father was a wealty diamond merchant living in South Africa. This was years before the horse scheme. Joe was involved with the gay baseball league and all types of money dissapered. Joe and his mother rented a home from a friend of mine and never paid him for over a year. My friend almost lost the house because of him. Joe talked a friend into borrowing money from a Chaldean loan shark. My friend had to give the loan shark gold jewelry to back up the loan. Well guess what, my friend was never paid back. Joe has been running scams way back when he worked in the ware house of Art Van Furniture, some 25+ years ago. The gay community has nothing to do with him in Detroit. Most of us are shocked that he still lived in Detroit. Let’s hear more from his old Detroit friends.

  16. KLS said,

    July 31, 2009 at 1:02 am

    FYI sean detroit–My dad did get in touch with the reporter from the Free Press, and he (the reporter–can’t remember his name) was very receptive to hearing the story. I would encourage you or others directly involved in this to email the reporter.

    • sean detroit said,

      August 1, 2009 at 11:47 pm

      thank you KLS, I’m curious, are you from Michigan or Fla.?

  17. KLS said,

    August 1, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Michigan– When I was a teenager Joe was my equestrian trainer. He acted as an agent in the purchase of a horse, but the money got “lost” in the transaction, and my parents lost the purchase money and the money spent on court proceedings (and the horse ended up back with the original owner). The Free Press reporter is working on another story that will go to press in the next couple weeks, apparently he’s got around 20 separate cases he’s looking in to.

    • Nice to Know said,

      June 1, 2010 at 3:35 am

      KLS, Are you talking about the SBF days…are you of relation to Sun-Daize?

  18. Sounds Fishy said,

    August 2, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    To KLS. I’d like to follow the story. Do you have the website of the “Free Press”? Thanks

  19. CASZ 2 said,

    August 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Hey Zada when are you going to pay the Capuchins? You religious phony. I’m surprised you are still living on Jefferson in Grosse Pointe, Mi. Is your mother still living in the house next door. She must be real proud of her son. Don’t know how you can live without constantly looking over your shoulder. You sure have alot of enemies. But with all your money you probably have alot of paid security. Just remember Zada all your money and even the Capuchins won’t keep you out of HELL!

    • Mark said,

      August 8, 2009 at 10:10 pm


      Is Zada’s house on Jefferson in Grosse Pointe the one that used to decorate all the trees in front of his house in red for Christmas? It was a huge display with life size characters for the manger and had life size angels on the roof of his house.

      • PonyGirl74 said,

        October 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm

        Mark, yes it is.

  20. florida said,

    August 8, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Thank You Zada.

  21. Mark from Michigan said,

    August 8, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Hello Diana,

    I enjoyed reading your webpage concerning Joe Zada. I took interest in the article based on the front page story in the Detroit Freepress of Zada owing Federov millions of dollars. I live in Grosse Pointe, MI, the same city Joe Zada has a house in and went to grade school with Joe Zada. I have not seen or spoke to Joe in over 30 years but seeing a name from the past perked my interest.

    In the articles I have read about Joe Zada, he always admits to owing the money that people are saying he owes. He is not saying the money was a gift or that he was owed the money for work he performed such as consulting. He has always maintained that he will pay the money back when he can but circumstances prevent him from paying the money back now. Millions of people in the United States have defaulted on all kinds of loans they obtained.
    Joe Zada is just one of them.

    My question to the people who loaned Joe Zada millions of dollars is why? Why would you loan Joe Zada your life savings? If these are just loans, Joe Zada had the right to spend the money anyway he wanted to. He was not bound to invest the money in any investments.
    Were these loans made from the heart? Based on the articles I have read, it appears that Joe Zada is gay and that some of his friends who became real close friends met Joe in gay themed arenas. Nothing wrong with that or a person’s choices but were the loans made between lovers? Is this just a case where an individual loans money to a significant other and the person borrowing the money disappears? Shame on the people that loaned him the money to begin with.

    On the other hand, if Joe Zada obtained the money based on business investments like people have said, where the investments were checked out by a respected attorney and there was formal paperwork documenting the investment and Zada spent this money on personal expenses, Zada is guilty of fraud and should go to prison. If this is the case, why hasn’t he been indicted yet? Zada admits he received the money so any forensic accountant could determine where the money went. Where is the indictment if this is true?

    Loaning money to a close friend or a lover and not getting paid back is hardly new. Although I do feel sympathetic to people who loan money to people they trust and then don’t get paid back, they have no one to blame but themselves. I have lost thousands of dollars loaning money to people I trusted but I have no one to blame but myself. They didn’t have a gun to my head when I loaned them the money. It was a poor choice on my part. I would never loan these people my life’s savings though.

    If the millions of dollars Federov gave to Zada was a loan instead of for a business investment, Federov is just plain out of luck if Zada’s assets indicate that the loan can’t be paid. Bankruptcy would be the best thing for Zada and he gets a fresh start with all the loans extinguished forever.

    I agree that Zada’s character is poor for borrowing this money if he indeed could not pay it back but making a movie of him and trashing him in the media is childish. Don’t lend money to friends or family especially if the money being lent is life changing for the lender. This advice is agreed to by any psychologist on the radio or on T.V.

    Will be interesting to see how this works out. Can’t imagine any person investing in an oil deal without proper paperwork documenting the business transaction.

    You have my permission to post my response concerning Joe Zada to your blogg.

    I didn’t mean to come across as unsympathetic to the people who loaned Zada money. I to have been in their shoes having lent close to $400,000 to my so called trusted friends over the years just to have them disappear. Since they didn’t have any money, the money judgments I obtained through civil litigation were not worth the paper they were written on.
    This wasn’t my live savings though.

    I want to be clear in that I am not defending Joe Zada in anyway. If these were loans obtained by fraud, deceit or false information, he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
    If the money given Zada was for business purposes as documented by contracts or memorandum of understandings and Zada converted these funds for his personal use, he is guilty of fraud and should be prosecuted.

    I agree that word needs to get out concerning Zada’s proficiency of borrowing money without paying it back but one would think that the circle Zada travels in the word would already be out.
    If a respected attorney checked out Zada’s proposed business investment and it appeared legitimate, this attorney no doubt would have checked Zada’s history of civil suits which would confirm if he was ever sued and what the outcome was. This is all public information. In today’s world, this information is easily obtained and I routinely obtain this information before making an investment with anybody.

    Another point is that this money is being obtained from upper middle class people. It is not being obtained from seniors or low income people. People who have this kind of money to loan in the first place have achieved a high degree of success and are not stupid. In Federov’s case, although a Russian born individual with limited advanced education, he no doubt has advisors and attorneys who would look over any investments that the outlay would approach 45 million dollars. If your not getting a return on your money, why keep on investing?

    I will be watching to see what happens.



  22. Steve said,

    August 10, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Re: Knoots and anyone else who is an apologist for Joe Zada
    He is, at best, a mini-Madoof (which is not a compliment in case you’re wondering). The reason he isn’t in jail is because maybe he’s too small potatoes (quite the comment on our society!). The fact is, Knoots and anyone else who thinks Joe is having hard time and will pay you off, it’s NOT going to happen. He kept this game going for so long because the economy was soaring. He is a charismatic con man who has run out of options. Now, the truth comes out: Bernie, Joe and the rest of their ilk are caving in on themselves. Maybe it took the high-profile hockey player, Federov, to give this thing legs but you’re dreaming if you think he’s an honest man trying to make good. He will be very lucky if he just ends up in prison. There really is a Russian Mafia, Virginia, and plenty of home grown people who might just zero in on Mr. Z. In any event, kiss the money goodbye. it’s l-o-n-g gone…

  23. Mark from Michigan said,

    August 10, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    In response to my comment on Joe Zada, Robert Dover mentioned that he and others were lead to believe that Joe Zada was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Robert also stated that it would be laughable to loan a guy money to pay debts that no one knew he had or to loan a guy money that was worth millions more than themselves. I agree with this. This is why I am struggling with this loan thing.

    If Robert and others, who are upper income people, didn’t loan Zada money and it indeed was for investment purposes, where are the supporting documents? If there are none, then the money was a loan and this is being confirmed by Zada. If the money was for a business investment, turn over the documents to federal prosecutors who will examine Zada’s financial dealings. If this money was not invested in the investment in question and was diverted to Zada’s personal use, it is fraud. Let’s get him indicted, put him in prison and off the street. It shouldn’t be a hard case to prove.
    This is what I’m struggling with. I’m hearing all the accusations but I don’t see the indictments.

    It was interesting to read where the Olympian did receive a 4 million dollar judgment against Zada but that the judgment did not receive any media attention. Federov’s judgment on the other hand received front page headlines because he was a famous hockey player. Welcome to the real world. Sometimes it takes a well known star to get things moving.
    With the amount in question on the Federov case, this should be all that is needed for Zada’s financial affairs to be scrutinized by prosecutors.


  24. Steve said,

    August 10, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Mark: I know you can’t wrap your head around this but what the issue here is that so many of the people be beat of money were FRIENDS…he wove a tale of needing a bridge loan for a short time. Most–if not all–of these victims would not have given anyone money under these circumstances but because he was a long-time FRIEND that is what makes this thing so nefarious. This is not taking a loan at bank. We know this. It is not people falling for the riches in Nigeria scam; these are people who had their loyalty betrayed…

    • Mark said,

      August 11, 2009 at 1:22 am


      I can understand loaning a friend some money but not millions of dollars or your life’s savings? The people Zada “borrowed” money from all appear to be well educated and intelligent people. If Zada came across as being highly successful, the first question I would ask if he wanted to borrow money from me is why aren’t the banks standing in line to loan you money?

  25. sean detroit said,

    September 2, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Mark, most of the money was for investments, not loans. Joe claimes they were loans, the friends thought they were investing. He borrowed money from me 20 years ago. He has never paid me back. If he is so rich and was able to buy a home on Lake Shore why can’t he pay me back my $4,000.00. He did borrow it from me. He said he needed money to help pay for his mothers operation since his rich father wouldn’t send her any money. He was a friend and I thought I was helping him out. His mother is part of this whole scam. Since you went to school with him, what city and school was it? Did you know his brothers? His parents? I’m just curious.

  26. PonyGirl74 said,

    October 20, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Thought that there may be some interest here in this:

  27. Dan said,

    July 16, 2010 at 3:59 am

    To whom it may concern. I am a long time friend of Joe and His family. I met Ron some time ago in New York and In Florida. I know first hand the intrigue that wealth brings. I want Ron to know that Wealth and riches is not at the heart of the matter. He had Dollar signs in his eyes and now he is a little jaded because it didn’t work out. Let’s do everyone a favor and esteem and build one another up.

    Dan Foley

    • Karen said,

      March 17, 2012 at 2:59 am

      Its Karen hope you remember can u give me a call. I worked for Joe in his Florida home on Hurlingham Dr.
      call me 724-658-3617

      • dianaderosa said,

        March 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm

        Hi Karen,
        This site is a couple of years old since I stopped following this. Who is Dan. I will try and see if I can figure out his email so you can email him directly. Email me at my email –

  28. Sean from Detroit said,

    September 10, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Well Joe is back in the paper again. Look at The Detroit Free Press, Sept 6. 2013. Does anyone know if the movie was finished and released.

  29. dianaderosa said,

    September 10, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Joe Zada is indicted on fraud

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